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obama. the different in dollars. the president wants $800 billion more in tax increases. the republicans want approximately more a trillion dollars more spending cuts. that's the difference between the two sides just in dollar terms. there is a difference between the two sides in terms of principle. the principle centers on higher tax rates, yes or no. speaker boehner many latest offer is raise $800 billion mostly from the wealthy by limiting deductions. the president says, no, don't want that. we want to tax the rich with higher tax rates on the rich. we have a dollar difference, a difference in principle. martha: we are hung up on ideology here. if you can get the money one way and it produces a long lasting change to the tax code which both sides say they want, what seems to be the problem? >> reporter: it's ideology. the president one the elect, he says he won it on taxing the rich. he want to win the debate. whether it's the best solutioner to the economy is an entirely different story. this is a political and ideological argument and we'll see who wins. martha: there is a couple wa
again it solely is because it doesn't raise tax rates on the rich. when is obama going to rise above that obsession? when will he lose that over rich people and tax rates? i don't know. tonight, i'm is going to try to call his bluff. anyway, also breaking tonight, potential catastrophe if syria uses its chemical weapons. president obama issues a stern warning to syria and i quote the world is watching. and there will be consequences if syria uses these wmds. have we just committed ourselves to another war? and the gun control debate is squarely back in the spotlight tonight after the murder/suicide by nfl player in kansas city, second amendment instead of blaming the sick people who use them. republicans have responded to a fiscal cliff counter offer to president obama. eamon javers joins us now from washington with all the details. good evening. >> reporter: good evening. leapt me walk you through the specifics or at least what specifics we have so far from this boehner counter offer and you can see where it falls short from the white house's perspective right in the top line take a
obama and really american people don't want to see middle class americans pay additional 2000 in taxes n which is what will happen in addition to cuts to programs . we want to cut and the american people want to see cut. there is it a few things. first more americans would blame the republicans and not president obama if we went off of the fiscal cliff. that is a motivation. >> brian: yeah. >> gretchen: ron, why do they feel that way? >> brian:ip totally agree with you. looking at polls and say republicans will get blamed and so why not runuss off of the cliff. >> republicans should have their own plan. the majority of americans in exit polls have said we should balance and ask the wealthiest to pay more. >> gretchen: wait, wait, wait, wait, wait. ron. that's not true. nothing is going to be balanced with talks that i heard about. >> brian: absolutely not. >> the only pending cuts is for war spending and stan tan and iraq. >> that is six billion in health care. >> we need more to save our generation and we shouldn't tax people give our generation jobs. can i please talk about how our gen
. obama only has a desire to raise taxes on the rich. all you know he wants to do it. run government for eight days and the taxes. the only reason why he is doing that is emotional gratification to feed the left, people he tries to appease. >> kimberly: it's appeas appeasement. >> bob: mostly wealthy people fun the wars in afghanistan. >> greg: i love that. [ overtalk ] >> bob: country club people say great idea to be in that war. >> kimberly: look at the voice he uses! >> eric: if we go over the fiscal cliff, people getting hurt the most, paid the most are the wealthy. >> kimberly: look, we talk about the jobs -- look, you want class warfare. >> greg: why is it good to punish people -- >> bob: break after break after break for republicans from 1986 on. time to pony up. >> greg: why? they pay most of the taxes. >> bob: so what? you don't care they contribute. you want them punished. >> greg: you're obama's soul. >> bob: they don't pay percentage of taxes on the money they earn versus what -- >> greg: 40%. reduce the government for eight days. that is preposterous. >> eric: is earning
're nowhere. >> reporter: president obama is looking for $1.6 trillion in new tax revenue over ten years. speaker boehner is offering half of that. there's $600 billion. the speaker says that's not enough. although he hasn't outlined what he thinks should be cut. if they can't avoid the fiscal cliff, it means on january 1st, every american will pay more income tax, between 2,000 to $2,200 for the average family. $500 billion in automatic spending cuts will go into effect. half of that at the pentagon. the other half coming in transportation, food safety and research. economists feel if washington can't strike a deal, the economy will fall back into recession and the unemployment rate will shoot up, rob and paula. >> tahman, the clock is ticking in all of this. where do the talks go from here this week? >> well, the white house said president obama presented his plan last week and the gop leaders shot it down. now, the ball is in the hands of the republicans. right now, it's all about the math. republicans may have to cave on taxes but president obama may have to accept deeper spending cu
raise tax revenue by not extending the current obama cut in payroll taxes. but the republican plan still refuses to raise the top income tax rates. yesterday, treasury secretary tim geithner made it clear that there can be no deal without higher top tax rates. >> last question, can you promise that we will not go over the cliff? >> no, i can't promise that. that's a decision that lies in the hands of the republicans that are now opposing increases in tax rates. if they recognize the reality that we can't afford to extend those tax rates, then we have a basis for the agreement and that's going to be the responsible thing to do and my judgment is they are going to do it. >> joining me now, ezra klein, huffington post, ryan grim. ezra, what do you make of the boehner proposal that was kind of cribbed from erskine bowles? >> two things. one, republicans are terrified about by the polls showing that they are going to immediately get blamed if they are not willing to compromise. the reason you initiate the bowles' plan is you say, look, they are going along with the former chief of staff said.
through tax reform. they go through spending cuts. none of the spending cuts in obama's plan. are we so far apart we will go up or is there a meeting ground? 'canes is smart of the republicans. last week, geithner to the treasury secretary and laughed at. across the board, left and right commentators said i think president obama is overplaying the hand here. they have a plan to get him what he campaigned on and said he wanted. they called it smart. we had the simpson bowl plan. deficit reduction plan how to get it back on track. they are proposing the plan that is a democrat version of the -- democrat counterpart to simpson. very smart. this offer was serious. the white house even though they put out a statement saying blah, blah, not good enough. call it a republican letter -- >> eric: this is the republican letter does not meet the test of balance. said our way or the highway from the white house. >> bob: reform ideas are interesting and should be on the table. the rest is bull. they don't cut anything out of defense. number one. number two, talk about the tax reform that will get to
will push back on president obama's demand for tax hikes on the rich when it comes to the fiscal cliff. but treasury secretary timothy geithner says the white house will not give in. >> no prospect to an agreement that doesn't involve those rates going up on the top 2% of the wealthiest americans. remember it's only 2%. >> geithner adds the obama administration is, quote, absolutely prepared to go off the cliff, if necessary. joining me now is van jones, cnn contributor and former obama administration official. good morning. >> god morning to you. >> so, van, i guess my first question that's eatsy for geithner to say, we're perfectly willing to go off the fiscal cliff. that means a tax hike on middle class americans and maybe some of them are thinking this morning i'm not really so happy geithner said that. >> it might have been inartful for him to say it the way he said it. i think he is making a very important point, which is that the american people did vote. they voted for the one thing the president said very clearly, which is that tax rates would go up on the wealthiest. it's an
't believe the latest white house proposal. the obama administration insists there's no deal without a tax increase. susan mcginnis is in washington with details this morning. susan, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, terrell. it may appear the two sides are nowhere but these talks are expected to pick up dramatically very soon. december is here and as they say here in washington the lawmakers can smell the jet fumes meaning the planes taking them home for their holiday recess. what we're hearing there should be a deal by christmas. the white house is already decorated for the holidays but the mood here in washington is anything but festive. >> i think we're going over the cliff. >> reporter: if congress doesn't act america will ring in the new year with $110 billion in spending cuts and a $500 billion tax increase leaving the average household with a nearly $3,500 hangover. timothy geithner was on the hill last week to present the president's plan to congress. >> i was flabbergasted. >> reporter: president obama wants $1.6 trillion in new taxes on the rich. $400 billion in cu
of continuing tax breaks for the wealthy, the obama administration is willing to go over this cliff which means they're willing to let your taxes go up and unemployment checks go away massive spending cuts happen if the pentagon instead of continuing the tax breaks for the wealthy. now there's been very little progress here on chiapitol hill which is why so many have gone home. we know that president obama and john boehner spoke by phone. republican sources telling us they had a conversation yesterday. we don't have a readout on what that was about. we don't know that if any meetings have been scheduled. but any small sign of progress is welcome here on capitol hill. now with so many lawmakers headed home and likely to face the ire of their constituents, we saw one protester in baltimore yesterday over social security. there are a few left. today there's a joint economic committee hearing. they're going to hear from a top economist not only about the jobs numbers coming out tomorrow but also about what can be done to avoid this issue at the end of the year. >> tracie potts for us in washington.
dollars in surplus package money that president obama wants, also, increasing taxes by 1.6 trillion dollars, that's not a deal that the american people can live with. it's not about grover norquist and not raising taxes, it's about going to the table and cutting a real deal. >> dick? >> i guess what i say is, what do the republicans want to cut? i mean, have they backed off the paul ryan plan to cut medicare have they backed off the plan for social security, and what is the plan? i think the president and the democrats and the country are waiting to hear. he made an offer. i'm a lawyer and deal with this and the other side why and we move to the middle. where is the republican plan. >> kelly: hold on a minute. you try to find that common ground. >> right. >> kelly: that common ground is so necessary now, which is why it goes back to my first question. the american people are begging congress and the president to act responsibly and we've got 30 days from now. what the heck is going on in washington? >> listen, the president has offered a base to start with, but it's pretty laughable
$800 billion in tax revenue in the fiscal cliff negotiations. president obama has said there will be no deal unless taxes are raised on the wealthiest americ americans. but staunch conservatives don't want any kind of new taxes. that's where speaker boehner's job gets really tough. on piers morgan tonight newt gingrich said if all else fails, go over the cliff. >> i think that no deal is better than a bad deal. i think going off this cliff is less dangerous than letting things build up for a year or two years to an even bigger cliff. i think that the president clearly has staked out a position of nonseriousness. and i think that it's very difficult for the house republicans right now to find any practical way to get his attention. so, he just won an election. he is feeling very good about himself. he is posturing brilliantly, putting the republicans in a corner. they need to relax. they don't have an election until november 2014. >> senior congressional correspondent dana bash joins me now. dana, can we expect fire woworkt the meeting this morning? >> reporter: possibly
today about taxes. he said the obama administration will refuse any deal that keeps tax cuts in place for wealthy americans. republicans are meeting that idea with stiff resistance. >> reporter: with the clock ticking and the fiscal cliff looping closure he says the white house will only agree to a plan that includes higher tax rates. >> if they are going to force higher rates on all americans because they are unwilling for 2% of the americans, that is a choice they have to make. >> reporter: calling for $1.6 trillion in tax revenue. he insists the tax cuts must expire for the wealthiest americans. >> what we did is put forward a very carefully designed mix of tax reforms to put us on a path to fixing the debt. >> reporter: republicans did not welcome the proposal. >> i was disappointed by the president's proposal. i think it is a rerun of his budget patrol. it is $1.6 trillion. >> reporter: and expressing frustration with the lack of progress. >> i would say we are nowhere. >> reporter: he disagrees, pointing out the administration offered $600 billion in cuts to healthcare and other
taxes go up, let these taxes happen if republicans press the idea of no tax increases for the wealthy. the latest we've learned, president obama and house speaker john boehner have spoken by phone. no word on what they discussed or whether there are any meetings planned, but just the fact that they're talking seems to be progress these days here on capitol hill. >> we'll take that. tracie potts for us in washington. tracie, thanks. >>> egypt state television is reporting at least five people were killed in overnight flashes between supporters and opponents of egyptian president mohammed morsi. the street battles were the most violent since egypt's latest crisis erupted two weeks ago where morsi assumed near absolute power. the opposition is vowing more protests later today. >>> this morning, two australian radio hosts are apologizing for a prank call that's getting worldwide attention. it was made to the hospital where kate is being treated for acute morning sick sentencesness. anna bell roberts is with us. >> reporter: good morning, lynn. that's right. the latest on kate's condition
will they tell president obama about the spending cuts and tax increases now just 28 days away? >> we must reign in our out of control spending. >> reporter: republicans have an offer, $800 billion in new taxes, half what the president wanted. $600 billion saved in part by making americans wait until they're 67 to get medicare. plus more cuts totalling $2.2 trillion. but no tax hikes for the wealthy. >> that's just not going to happen. >> reporter: the pentagon could take the biggest hit from president obama told defense experts monday, don't worry. >> even as we make very tough fiscal choices, we're going to keep investing in these programs. >> reporter: he went online on youtube and twitter explaining why he thinks the rich should pay more. going over the fiscal cliff could cost america jobs. >> we're only expanding 2% right now. it needs to be considerably higher to bring more people off unemployment. >> reporter: for the jobless, president obama is asking congress for millions more. and more on the president's plan which will pitch to governors today largely spares social security and medica
immediate action to avoid those automatic tax increases and spending cuts come january. president obama is saying that with the way speaker boehner plan stands now, no deal. >> unfortunately the speaker's proposal is out of balance. we will have to see the rates on the top 2% go up and we are not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> that was an exclusive with bloomberg t.v. and the first televised interview since the president's re-election. as you heard, taxes are the big issue blocking this deal from taking place. president obama is calling for downhill the amount of tax revenue as speaker boehner over the next tens years, most from the nation's top earners. many. republicans say that's not the way to handle this. here is marco rubio. >> it wouldn'ting make a small bent in the debt but it would heard middle class businesses. >> the g.o.p. could be risking a civil war over this issue. it does not look like obama is ready to cave. if that forces republican leaders to compromise staunch conservatives will likely rebel. more "bill press" up after t
a competitive tax system and i think our slow going economy under president obama says we don't. >> the new york times though makes a mention of, just a sort of a passing mention in this massive article, by the way, about the need to cut spending like one or two sentences about the need-- >> and i think that milton freedman brought us, that spending is really the tax bill. it's just delayed. so, every toll the government spends eventually they're going to have to take it from someone, either in taxes or in inflation, so, this is why you're seeing a lack of business investment is because this massive spending and huge debt tells every business owner, every investor, big tax are are coming to eventually pay for this. >> what was the point of the piece? i know there's hand wringing out there, maybe the folks on the right say under obama our taxes have gone up and we may more in taxes than we've ever paid and attempt to say, we're not-- >> this is long-term by the president and his allies to create an intellectual justification to raise taxes and in this case, they use the reagan years and often wen
. president obama wants to end tax cuts for americans making more than 250-thousand dollars a year. the bottom line -- lawmakers made no progress today on an agreement. >> mitt romney has a job again.. he's returning to the board of directors at marriott international hotel.... he's been on the board twice before - but left to run for political office. romney has kept a low profile since the election - spending his time with his family at their california home. the romney and marriott families are close -- in fact - willard mitt romney was named after the hotel's founder -- j. willard marriott... >> heavy fighting between rebel and government forces in syria. now there is concern that syria could plan on using chemical weapons against the rebels. obama is warmin mornin-that it should not happening. >> the use of chemical weapons. is and is totally unacceptable. and if you make the tragic mistake of using these weapons it there will be consequences and you will be held accountable >> the united nations is withdrawing its international staff from syria because of the obvious security problems.
to a new abc news/"the washington post" poll believes they should raise taxes on those over $250,000 a year. presumably president obama has seen these polls. so if there is a fiscal cliff and we go over it, the american public are likely to blame the republicans. >> well, that's absolutely true, piers. we've had an election and the clearest debate and the clearest difference in that election was over the question of whether the rich should pay more and tax rates should go up on the rich. everybody who paid any attention at all knows that the top 2% are now taking home a larger share of total income and wealth in this country than they have in over 80 years and are paying the lowest effective tax rate they paid in over a half a century. we also have a looming budget deficit. so you don't have to really be a rocket scientist to understand that the rich do have to pay more. taxes do have to be raised on the rich and i think that's why over 60% of the public in these polls are not only supportive of a tax increase on the rich, but also will blame the republicans if we go over the fiscal cliff.
ran on, elections of consequences. remember that famous soundbyte? obama ran on higher taxes for the wealthy and won. lz, shouldn't he be making the same argument? that is what he ran on. >> absolutely. you know what i find interesting, if you look at the statistics, many of the blue states that supported president obama are some of the richest states in the country. and so not only did you have him defeat romney pretty handedly in the electoral college, but people willing to sacrifice their own money to make sure that president obama, his policies made it to the white house. you know, it was the exact opposite in just the republicans. some of the red states were some of the poorest states in the country. so i think it is very interesting that when you see average american citizens who happen to be making a little bit more money willing to sacrifice for the good of the country, i think that's a good message and something to get behind and stand on. >> lz, our producers are here, can we keep them over the break? i want to be the mediator, do we have time for that? can we do th
about that let's show what grover norquist had to say. he's the anti-tax pledge crusader. this is what he had to say yesterday. >> tea party two will dwarf tea party one if obama pushes us off the cliff. >> that's like say anaconda two will dwarf anaconda one. the sequel will be more intense. a poll find out last week that they found a majority of americans will blame the republicans in congress not the president for failure to make the deal. as we hear what grover says you see at any time other way. you say it will be the democrats. >> it could be. depending on what happens. if they keep posturing we can go off the fiscal cliff it won't be such a big deal i don't think that's where most democrats will end up. you they are president and a lot of people down in washington saying they don't want to go off the fiscal cliff. as far as grover norquist notices, i don't think republicans should be caving to a special interest of one, frankly. we do see some brave republicans coming out there and they should be supported because they are about finding a solution. >> i want to show this tomb th
, no deal in sight. president obama wants to raise taxes on the wealthiest 2% of americans as speaker boehner lashes out over his budget plan. >>> hillary clinton is the lead candidate for 2016, a new poll shows. she keeps saying no, no, no. but will she heed the call? >> yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. >>> new details on the murde murder/suicide involving kansas city chief jovan belcher. what the 911 calls reveal about the slaying of his girlfriend. >>> what you should absolutely stay away from. >>> packed show for you this morning. jeb henserling is joining us. american federation of teachers and our guest as well is randi weingarten. "starting point" begins right now. >>> morning. welcome, everybody. our "starting point" this morning, president obama says he will not bend in this fiscal cliff debate. americans face the prospect of severe tax hikes, spending cuts if republicans and democrats can't get together to work out some deal. congress breaks for the holidays in ten days. if they don't extend that, it will be ten days from then that we fall off the fiscal cliff. >> if we're going to
obama says he is ready to make a deal but wouldn't accept continued tax cuts for the wealthiest people. >>> the senate has already passed a bill to keep income taxes from going up on middle class families. democrats in the house are ready to do the same thing. and if we can just get a few house republicans on board, i'll sign this bill as soon as congress sends it my way. but, it is unacceptable for some republicans in congress to hold middle class tax cuts hostage simply because they refuse to let tax rates go up on the richest americans. >> republicans say tax hikes on the wealthy mean tax hikes for small businesses, something they insist they cannot accept. here is long-time gop senator orin hatch. >> unfortunately, some on the other side of the aisle are indicating a disastrous thelma and louise idea, that will put us in jeopardy, for small business and other parts of the economy. >> they agreed that tax cuts should be renewed for everybody making less than $250,000 a year. but democrats want the tax cuts for the very wealthy to expire. >>> and reigniting the trayvon martin debate,
. he wants to add higher taxes to that. tea party, too, is going to dwarf tea party one if obama pushes us off the cliff. >>> another major story from the weekend, it was an emotional weekend in the nfl and in kansas city as the chiefs took the field on sunday just 24 hours after a tragedy involving a key member of their team. police say linebacker jovan belcher shot and killed his girlfriend, the mother of his infant daughter. minutes later he took his own life in the parking lot of arrowhead stadium where the chiefs play right in front of his coaches. nbc's tan trareporter. >> reporter: kansas city head coach romeo crennel wiped away tears on the sideline one day after witnessing linebacker jovan belcher taking his own life. >> i'm choosing not to answer any questions about what i saw yesterday. and i think that you will understand that, and hopefully you will respect my wishes on that because it wasn't a pretty sight. >> reporter: belcher shot himself here at this practice facility at famed arrowhead stadium. crennel told police the 25-year-old belcher thanked him and general manager
's hostage taking. >> pelosi and other democrat respect pushing for president obama's plan. it would extend the bush tax cut for the middle class but raise taxes on incomes over $250,000 a year. republican senator jim demint calls the idea quote, outlandish. >> republicans should not be conceding that the federal government needs more money negotiating with ourselves and teating the president's proposal like it's serious. >> republican house speaker john boehner has come out against any tax hike and has refused to bring the democratic plan for a vote. >>> the dow fell almost 14 points. nasdaq lost 5 1/2. the s & p fell 2 1/2 points. >>> yahoo is buying another silicon startup. sunnyvale's yahoo acquired on the air today. the service enables users to hold online video chats in a talk show foremated. >>> a monstrous typhoon has killed 74 people in the philippines and the deattoll is expected to rise. 23 of the people drowned in flooding caused by the typhoon. the storm made landfall yesterday and some 60,000 people have fled to emergency shelters. the crowded shelters in this new video. the t
that president obama is getting a little cocky. >> working to get public support for the tax and spending proposal. president obama answered questions on twitter. how will you stop us from going over the fiscal cliff and will it involve significant deficit reduction. the president said i thought twitter was supposed to be fun. where are all of the crazy video. twitter boring. >> gretchen: it is an interesting concept instead of spending time twittering why not go and lead the discussion between the parties. >> steve: or the president went golfing three or four times . it would be great if he went golfing with john boehner. >> gretchen: as hong as they don't ask. here are the headlines. a scare for franky muniz who rose to fame for malkare olm in the middle. >> it is the video . desense -- desensitized to violence. how many have you had. >> gretchen: the 26 year old recovering after suffering from a min i stroke. they are awaiting results. they noticed that nuniz had trouble understanding word and speaking. >> brian: he has to take better care of himself. >> steve: meanwhile, a mother coul
.c. the obama administration draws a line in the sand over tax hikes. the two sides now seem further apart than ever before. and we have less than a month to go. >>> soledad, a flood of trouble in the west. widespread destruction as storms pound already soggy parts of northern california. >> lots to talk about this morning. we'll have joe linta, the agent for kansas city chiefs linebacker jovan belcher. also talking to florida republican congressman connie mack. california republican mary bono mack will join us as well. also, carlos gutierrez. former giants runningback tiki barber is with us in the studio. it's monday, december 3rd, and "starting point" begins right now. welcome, everybody. our team joining us around the table. barbara starr, cnn's pentagon correspondent. we were talking this morning, it has been literally four years since we've seen each other in person. >> last time i saw you was inauguration day. >> we talk all the time. in person, four years. kamau bell is a median. new york congresswoman nan hayworth. alina cho sticking around to help us, too. starting point is the search
, which president obama has called a nonstarter. so what if we raised taxes a little bit? still be much lower than what americans paid just a generation ago. in 1980, the wealthiest americans paid a marginal tax rate of 70% of their income to uncle sam. now, tax reform under president reagan reduced that rate to 50% and in 1981, and closer to current levels in 1986. today, president obama wants to let the bush era tax cuts expire for wealthy americans only, taking up their marginal federal tax rate from 36% to 39.6%. we're talking about a 3.6 percentage point uptick for households making more than $250,000 a year, only on every dollar they make above the $250,000 amount. starts 2 s at $251,000. it is on the money you make on the margin. now, while i totally agree every penny counts when it comes to your money, when you compare that to the taxes most americans paid out in past decades, when there was phenomenal economic growth, i don't get why republicans are screaming bloody murder about this 3.6%. what if we were all to chip in a little more. we need taxes, we need government programs,
with the bill. press secretary jay carney said mr. obama is determined to phase out the bush administration tax cuts for families making more than $250,000 a year. >> he will not sign a bill that extends those tax rates for the top 2%. we can't afford it. it is not a wise economic policy or wise fiscal policy. and it would defeat the principle of balance that he has embraced. >> so with less than a month to go before the deadline, we've now had an offer and a counteroffer, but arguably, no real attempt at compromise. democrats say republicans haven't detailed how they would increase tax revenue and they haven't offered enough of it and republicans say democrats haven't agreed to serious entitlement program cuts. steve, gretchen, brian? >> steve: thank you very much, live from the north lawn. ten minutes before the top of the hour. you probably remember the $6 million man. >> wed into to make the world's first bionic man better than he was before. better, stronger, faster. >> steve: our next guest says he can make this a reality, merging man with machine. it does not involve lee majors. >> gretc
merit in it. >> this thing called the ryan plan, president obama continues to take his case to the american people who rejected the ryan plan. today he answered questions directly on twitter. one person asked, why won't keeping tax rates low across the board encourage more hires and therefore, more tax revenue? the president responded, high-end tax cuts do the least for economic growth and cost almost $ 1 trillion. extending middle class cuts boosts consumer demand and growth. the white house released a video today showing how president obama has been consistent on his message throughout the last couple of years. it was central to his campaign. >> we need to give tax relief to working families trying to raise their kids to keep them healthy, send them to college, keep a roof over their heads. that's the choice in this election. that's one of the reasons i'm running for a second term as president. >> how quickly we forget. in the words of secretary timothy geithner, this is why republicans have no choice but accepting the tax increases on the wealthiest americans. >> why does
: is the media -- the media has been focused on the tax hikes and whether president obama is going to get them and not focused on spending cuts. is that because the republicans and the president agree the middle class needs those tax cuts and should get them. the only thing they disagree on is whether the rich should also have tax cuts given to them. the left is say we agreet middle class should get the tax cuts. so let's give them to them. >> you are comment is largely right. the republicans have gone along in a bipartisan manner with the idea there has to be revenue. the speaker has put forward a framework in which he agrees there should be $800 billion of revenue on the table. the problem is -- that's only 1/10 of the problem even if you use the cbo's number. if you raise the taxes on the top 2% you get $90 billion with the most generous estimates of added revenue. the deficit is $1.9 trillion. megyn: mark, the point that i'm trying to get to, is there some arrogance or bias, anything inappropriate about the media being oh focused on the tax debate as opposed to where are the spending cuts?
maker? >> it just may mean that republicans ultimately give him close to what he wants on raising tax rates on the top 2%. president obama has been very clear, he was all the way through the campaign that he would not give in on that. so that's i think what's important now. republicans don't like a lot of what was in the white house's opening offer. they dictate the $50 billion stimulus that was in the offer as a slap in the face. some of these little things we'll see taken out of file deal. >> to that point here's john boehner talking about when he saw that opening offer. >> i was flabbergasted. i looked at him and said you can't be serious. i just never seen anything like it. you know, we got seven weeks between election day and the end the year. and three of those weeks have been wasted with this nonsense. >> okay. >> it's clear he's not pleased from his ha. is the president in danger of going too far? >> no. i think that everyone is amazed that president obama is pursuing an absolutely normal approach to negotiation. people over the last two years got so accustomed to his strategy
is trying to avoid plunging of the fiscal cliff. he has made clear that the obama administration is saying that the first order of business has to be to extend tax breaks for middle-class families and raise tax rates for the top 2% of income earners. talks over how to rein in entitlement spending should be held sometime next year. >> the president is asking for $1.6 trillion of new revenue over 10 years. twice as much as he has been asking for the public. his stimulus spending exceeded the amount of new cuts that he was willing to consider. it was not a serious offer. reporter: enter a new player in the talks, stephanie cutter. you remember her? she was the deputy campaign manager for the obama-biden ticket suggested that mitt romney might have committed a felony on his tax returns. sunday night, she e-mailed them to reach a fiscal deal. republicans have balked at raising those tax rates. they are identified by marcus at countries job creators. >> for the first time in two decades, they are there will tell revenues go up as part is the plan. but they have to tell us what they're willing to
that fiscal cliff. we know that the tax hikes go up. some estimates -- ben bernanke, the fed chairman, fears that it will throw the country into a recession. that would hurt the whole country, of course president obama as well. they have to be careful here as well. but democrats and the president clearly believe that they have the leverage to force an increase in these tax rates on the upper income americans before they agree to a deal. >> we'll all be watching the stock market as well. if that indeed happen. >>> the president is also concentrating on recasting his new cabinet and one name that came up yesterday is a replacement for leon panetta at the defense department. actually a republican, chuck hagel. former senator from nebraska. >> it's possible, but this is a real game of musical chairs right now. the president has to fill at least three big jobs, secretary of state, hillary clinton, defense and cia. and if the president does not choose susan rice that means john kerry goes to state and hagel goes to defense. if he chooses kerry for state then you could end up having hagel go to cia
kerley at the white house tonight. >> reporter: president obama and his white house team appear confident with the stronger hand in talks with house republicans, demanding and believing tax rates for the wealthy are going up. >> there is no responsible way we can govern the country with those low rates in place for future generations. those rates are going to have to go up. >> i was flabbergasted. i look at him and i said, you can't be serious. >> reporter: the two sides are seriously far apart. the president wants $1.6 billion in new tax revenue over ten years. the speaker wants half that. the president wants spending cuts, $600 billion. to medicare and other programs. not enough, says the speaker. >> if we gave the president 1.6 trillion of more money, what do you think he is going to do with it? he is going to spend it. that is what washington does. >> they have to come to us and tell us what they need. what we can't do is to keep guessing. >> so the ball is in their court? >> absolutely. and they understand that. >> reporter: the good news, it appears the mortgage reduction is not par
to cut spending. >> there has to be a mutual compromise. that's what a settlement s. >> obama is going for it all. >> why shouldn't he? >> she is right. >> he has no actual reason why raising taxes will help the economy, number one, and we know whether you cut taxes or raise taxes, you are always going to spend. >> i am not agreeing with his policies. don't misunderstand me. what i am saying is this is a negotiation and he is coming in with everything. where is he going to go? is onlo come down. the gop will have to come up. somewhere we hope they meet in the middle. >> he doesn't have to come down though. i agree with compromise. i would say 51% voted for this. you know what, go ahead. it is like having a teenager that you keep telling, vegetables are good for you and they keep kicking your shins saying, i am not eating the vegetables. finally i say, eat twinkies until you die. >> you can't because twinkies have been eliminated. >> someone is going to buy them. >> last word to you, bill. >> geitner says this is going to happen, but we have to go through a little political theater. the
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. president obama laid out his plan. $1.6 trillion and taxes on the rich and $400 billion in cuts. republicans say they're, well, flabbergasted. and today grover norquist, who is against any tax increase, has an idea. if you want to know who's negotiating in good faith, put it on tv. >> it's the president who's threatening to raise taxes on the middle class if he doesn't stomp his feet and fwet his way. he should get into a room with c-span cameras there so instead of hearing rhetoric like this, let's hear it in front of c-span cameras. if the republicans being reasonable, we'll see that. if they're not, we'll see that. got to have cameras in that room. >> i personally love c-span as do cnn contributors l.z. granderson and will cain. welcome to both of you. let's start there. i would love to watch the negotiations in realtime. does mr. norquist have a dandy idea, l.z.? >> i don't think so. i really don't. i mean, how many people are watching c-span now? that's not the bash c-span. it's not as if this negotiation is going to last 45 minutes with 18 minutes of commercials. it's going to last for
coming up in the show. >>> tonight, what a mess. just hours ago house republicans sent president obama a new offer to avoid the fiscal cliff. it is a counter offer to president obama's plan. g.o.p. lawmakers proposed raising $800 billion in revenue from tax reform, not higher tax rates, but the white house immediately slammed the offer and said it won't even consider it, and tonight speaker boehner responds to the white house response saying it's now up to the president to come up with a plan. congressman allen west joins us. good evening. >> how are you doing? >> greta: very well. the white house is unimpressed by the proposal from the speaker and the white house republicans. >> the white house needs to go back and do case studies whe. you look at presidents cool imagidgeand kennedy, they went % down to 24%. kennedy went from 91% down to 71% and they increased revenue. what we're talking about is not what the president of the united states is looking at with wealth redistribution. we're talking about wealth expansion and economic growth and sound economic policies to do that. if you w
in today for john berman. >> and i'm zoraida sambolin. >>> up first, president obama standing his ground over the fight in the fiscal cliff. americans face crushing tax hikes and severe spending cuts in 27 days if democrats and republicans cannot come together on a deal. by the way, congress breaks for the holidays in ten days. slash that number. in an interview with bloomberg news, the president made it crystal clear he's not about to blink on the issue of tax hikes for the wealthiest americans. >> we'll have to see the rates on the top 2% go up. and we're not going to be able to get a deal without it. >> white house correspondent dan lothian joins us live from washington this morning. very nice to see you, dan. >> good to see you. >> here's the deal. we have republicans pitted against democrats. now we understand there are issues amongst republicans as well. >> that's right. they're in a tough spot here. they don't want to be in left in a position of being blamed for the fiscal cliff. you're seeing a division between house members and senate members. the reason for this is mainly over
in savings when it comes to tax revenue. but much of that came from raising tax rates for the wealthiest americans, which of course is what president obama campaigned on. so those are the big differences right now. but this certainly is important, wolf, because republicans were saying that they're not even sure that this ball was in their court. clearly they realized it was. so the talks -- there is stalemate no more, put it that way. >> on this key issue of marginal tax rates for the wealthy, the republican offer is keep the tax rates exactly as they are right now, 35% for that 2% wealthiest families making more than $250,000. the obama proposal is raise that rate to 39.6% where it was during the clinton administration. what else is in this new gop proposal? >> reporter: let's show you some of the savings when it comes to government spending. first of all, they put about $600 billion in what the republicans are calling health savings. we understand -- we don't have details. we understand much of that comes from medicare, things that we've heard from republicans over and over like raisin
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